i'm a big fan of marco rubio, for example. i think he's worked it aggressively. >> rose: a pathway to citizenship. >> i think that's basically where we're headed. you've got to have some kind of ultimate resolution and i'm not an expert in the subject but i think clearly we've got over 11 million illegals here and i think the ideas that we need to find ways to come to grips that with problem and pass legislation are sod so i'm more inclined to look at somebody like rubio and the work he's done as being something that we need to -- >> rose: it's something your administration wanted very much. the president cited it as one of his second-term goals. >> the president was very big on it. he had 44% of the latino vote in texas. >> rose: so what's happened to your party? >> i think the issue was probably badly handled during the last election. i think that contributed to it. >> rose: because of the competitiveness of the primary? >> partly. i think in part because one of the explanations -- i can' speak with authority to whether or n